Showing posts with label Belief. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Belief. Show all posts

Sunday, August 23, 2009

Leprechauns and Gods

(From: Proud Atheists)

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Can you prove that leprechauns exist? Can you prove your god(s) exist(s)?
As a religious person, you may laugh at someone that believes there are leprechauns or elves. Do you realize that many of us atheists view your belief in God as silly or deluded or irrational? It’s not because we hate your god or are just simply rebellious. To hate something requires acknowledgment of its existence. It’s not because a priest molested us or some bad childhood experience. We simply do not believe in deities as most people do not believe in leprechauns.

The typical silly response from some believers is, “You can’t prove that God doesn’t exist!” No, we cannot prove that any god does not exist, nor can we prove that leprechauns do not exist. Does that make their existence as true as the existence of a god?

* No god or leprechaun has ever left any physical evidence of their existence on earth. Scriptures, temples and idols are man made.

* Tornadoes, hurricanes, floods and earthquakes continue to happen with no response from a god or leprechaun. Human response is needed to aid victims of these events.

* The Holocaust, the Inquisitions and other atrocities have occurred with no response from a god or leprechaun.

* Knowledge or belief in any god is based on ancient texts or scripture, not on an initial relationship before the learning through doctrine or one’s environment.

Leprechauns and Gods
Mark
Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:55:51 GMT

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Thursday, August 20, 2009

When to Stone Your Whole Family

OK, I admit it. I stole the title from the Brick Testament.

But the Brick Testament pretty much stole it from the Bible, so I guess it all works out OK.

Deuteronomy 13 gets my vote for the worst chapter in the Bible. But before we get into it, let's look at its context.

The last verse of chapter 12 says this.

What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. Deuteronomy 12:32

The person who is supposedly talking here is God, and he says to do whatever he says, exactly as he says, no more and no less.

And what does he say to do immediately after this verse? Three things.

  1. Kill any prophet or dreamer of dreams. Even if they have cool signs and wonders.
    If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder ... that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death. Deuteronomy 13:1-5
  2. Kill your family if they have religious beliefs that differ from your own.
    If thy brother ... or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods ... Thou shalt not consent unto him ... neither shall thine eye pity him ... But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
  3. Kill everyone in every city that has citizens that believe differently than you.
    If thou shalt hear ... men ... saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known ... Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:12-17

But I'd like to focus on God's second command in Deuteronomy 13: When to Stone Your Whole Family.

If thy brother ... or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods ... Thou shalt not consent unto him ... neither shall thine eye pity him. Deuteronomy 13:6-8
But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death. Deuteronomy 13:8-9
and afterwards the hand of all the people. Deuteronomy 13:9

So God commands us all to stone to death, without pity, our wife, husband, son, daughter, brother, sister, or friend, if they have religious beliefs that are different from our own. (Our own beliefs are the correct beliefs, of course.)

And God said immediately before these verses that "what thing soever I command you, observe to do it."

Is there a believer that follows God's command in Deuteronomy 13:6-10?

Is there a believer who is not deeply ashamed that this is in the Bible?

If so, I'd love to hear about it.

When to Stone Your Whole Family
Steve Wells
Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:58:00 GMT

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Saturday, August 8, 2009

Is atheism an intolerant belief? It’s not a belief at all!

 

I know I don’t need to point out that atheism isn’t actually a system of belief, but I would like to point out that the interviewer has obviously already made up his mind that telling other people that their own beliefs have no basis in reality is the height of intolerance. It’s like watching a bunch of grown men act like babies. And as usual, the old canard that faith is all you need to believe is the weakest position any human can have regarding as important a question as: is there a God.

Sorry to burst your theological bubble guys, but the last time your religions were in power, life fucking sucked for everyone. Stop pretending that you’re the good guys and we’re the baddies. I haven’t condemned anyone to an eternity of torture for not believing in what I do.

Second video after the jump

Is atheism an intolerant belief? It’s not a belief at all! Jacob Fortin Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:17:04 GMT

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Monday, March 9, 2009

Told a coworker

To day at work, I was talking to one of my coworkers, about a situation that occurred today.

One of my employees offered me the daily word pamphlet, I politely said no thanks, and he started in on me about oh your going to hell. I responded to this by basically saying ok if that's what you think.

Later in the day I was talking to another manager and he wound up asking me if I was a atheist, I told him yes, but not something I would tell a lot of our customers, or employees.

We got into a discussion about having a rational conversation, and the ability to agree to disagree. and I explained how a lot of the time Christian's always lose by putting someone on the defensive I explained if I walked into the office, started yelling at him, that his reaction would normally be very defensive and not really listen to a thing I had to say. I then explained this is exactly what a lot of Christian's do by immediately start telling someone that doesn't believe the way they do or doesn't believe at all that they are going to hell. You cant attack someone for their believe or disbelieve, you must have the ability to listen and agree to disagree.

I have been under the idea that if you want to believe that a god exists then that's fine for you, as long as you follow a couple of simple rules
  1. Do not hurt someone in the name of your god/religion
  2. Do not force your believes on someone that doesn't want to believe what you believe
  3. Have respect for other people and their choices
  4. Believe what you want, but keep your believes out of the public venue (some people want a religious country (what religion?) We attacked and destroyed Afghanistan and they were a very religious country, do you want that here?
I am sure I could put more, and wouldnt mind someone else putting more, but thats all for right now







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