God's Mysterious Way

Today one of my employees felt bad for a couple who told her that their house had burned down, and they had no money and were hungry. So she bought them dinner.

A little while later she got all religious, saying that god would be happy with her for helping those people. Then she goes on to ask someone else if they believed god worked in mysterious ways. She asked me and I said I dont believe in mythology. I also told her that I thought it was dumb to believe that god works in mysterious ways. I explained that its like driving a car with brakes, heading for a wall, not hitting the brakes and expecting god to stop the car, and noone to get hurt.

Oh well. Let people believe what they want, but watch out for the wall, better yet HIT THE DAMM BRAKES.

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Genesis 5

SAB, Genesis 5

• 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Ok Reading this I guess we are not supposed to be called Human, but to be called Adam.

• 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

So heres one answer massive incest.

So this chapter is just lineage, but provides massive thought that the only way adams boys had children was to make their sisters their wifes.

Genesis 4

SAB, Genesis 4

• 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
• 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
• 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
• 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
• 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

So here if you kill a animal for god good, if you bring fruit which you had to work to produce and manage alot more than the animal, you sacrifice is no good. So your work means NOTHING, only some stupid animal sacrifice.

• 4:9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

Hmmm god doesn't seem to know where abel is or he is just playing stupid?

• 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
• 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Hmm so far we only have 4 people on earth, well 3 now since cain killed abel, so who is this every one that shall slay him? His own mother and father?

PER SAB
(4:14) "Every one that findeth me shall slay me."
Cain is worried after killing Abel and says, "Every one who finds me shall slay me." This is a strange concern since there were only two other humans alive at the time -- his parents!

• 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Umm where did the wife come from? 4 - 1 = 3. This makes no logical sense at all. and he builds a city?

• 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Here we go again, how does seth have a kid?

Ok this chapter makes no sense at all, we have a total of 3 kids born all male, 1 killed, yet 2 males have kids. Where did their wifes come from?

I can't believe that people would actually believe all this.

Genesis 3

SAB, Genesis 3

• 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
• 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Now they were nude to start with, so eating the fruit caused them to have modesty for their bodys? Even little kids need to be forced at times to wear clothes, they have no natural modesty for their body's they don't feel the need to hide their body at all, so this is just plain stupid.

• 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Yeah blame the woman, its all her fault. Adam cant take personal responsibility for his own actions.

Not really alot in this chapter, just kinda blame the woman.

Genesis 2

• 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
• 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Ok so a god gets tired and needs rest?

• 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Why would god need to create a tree of life, or a tree of knowledge of good and evil? Is he trying to dumb down his creation, or is that he made man imperfect in the first place?

• 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thoumayest freely eat:
• 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ok we know the outcome, but I find it funny that you would put something in place and tell adam, you cant eat that. Come on anyone that has been around children knows, you don't put a plate of cookies in front of them, and say you can look at them, but you cant eat them. Come on get real, as soon as you turn around the kid will probably eat a cookie.

• 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
• 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Come on even to this day we are still finding animals that have rarely been seen. I love the last few words, was adam supposed to find a mate in the animals? Was god telling adam to be in to bestiality?

PER SAB
(2:19-22)
"But for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."
God makes the animals and parades them before Adam to see if any would strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes. (Although he was tempted to go for the sheep.)
When were humans created?
When was Eve created?

Genesis 1

Ok I am going to reread the bible, just for the heck of it, and see some of the things that make no sense to me. As I read this I will try to blog chapter by chapter, in doing so I will also have to look at the bible a little more, if I am going to write about what I think of it.

I am also going to use the Skeptic's Annotated Bible they have some interesting notes for the bible, and sometimes I will reference those notes.

Genesis 1

• 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
• 1:7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
• 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Based on the above all of earth is heaven, so here we are at the beginning of the bible, and we seem to find that there is no heaven above earth but earth is heaven.

I just loved this
PER SAB:
Let the earth bring forth grass"
Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). Notice, though, that God lets "the earth bring forth" the plants, rather than creating them directly. Maybe Genesis is not so anti-evolution after all.
Were plants created before or after humans?
Does the Bible teach evolution?

God placed the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament so that they can be used "for signs". This, of course, is exactly what astrologers do: read "the signs" in the Zodiac to predict what will happen on Earth.
Does the bible condemn astrology?
What the Bible says about astrology

• 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Ok I find this really funny, since the moon is a planetary body, and not a source of energy able to produce light, and since the moon can be visible during the day how could it be made to rule the night, and if it was made to rule the night, should it not be visable completely during all night time hours?

• 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

firmament - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

firmament
One entry found.

Main Entry:
fir·ma·ment Listen to the pronunciation of firmament
Pronunciation:
\ˈfər-mə-mənt\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Late Latin & Latin; Late Latin firmamentum, from Latin, support, from firmare
Date:
13th century

1: the vault or arch of the sky : heavens
2obsolete : basis
3: the field or sphere of an interest or activity
— fir·ma·men·tal Listen to the pronunciation of firmamental \ˌfər-mə-ˈmen-təl\ adjective

So the question becomes what really is firmament?

Just in the first 17 verses I see contradictions that make no sense. But I am going to keep going on, and put my views here.

• 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after
  his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his
  kind: and it was so.

How does the earth bring forth the creatures?

PER SAB: (1:24) "Let the earth bring forth the living creature" Does the Bible teach evolution?

• 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

I like how god says "in our image" hence our would mean more than one. So how many gods are there?

PER SAB: In Genesis 1 the entire creation takes 6 days, but the universe is about 13.7 billion years old, with new stars constantly being formed.

In reading genesis 1 I find it hard to believe much of what is written, I see contradictions, and miss direction, when you look back in time to when this would have been written it was easier for someone to convince people that there was this mysterious force in control of everything, and that what happened to you wasn't your doing our others doings but was in fact in the control of this mysterious controlling force in the sky.

Genesis for Skeptics

Since I am going to reread the bible, I am using the Skeptic's Annotated Bible I will put in things that I find interesting, and disagree with, I will refer to the SAB's notes when I think they are pertinent. Other peoples comments will be interesting. If you want to disagree with me then that is fine, but please have respect for my opinions, as I will have respect for yours. In order to get along in the world, everyone needs to respect each others opinions, even when we disagree.

The following is taken from the SAB.

Genesis Introduction

Genesis for Skeptics

Genesis has it all: sex, violence, contradictions, insults to women, absurdities, conflicts with science and history, you name it. Well, except for anything good, that is. God declared his creation to be "very good" in 1:31, but I can't find anything good in Genesis.

Be sure to check out:

• The two contradictory creation stories  1:1-2:3, 2:4-25
• God's clever, talking serpent  3:1
• God's curse of all women  3:16
• The "sons of God" copulated with the "daughters of men," and had sons who became "the mighty men of old, men of renown." 6:2-4
• "There were giants in the earth in those days." 6:4
• God, the mass murderer  7:4, 19:24
• Noah, the just and righteous  7:1
• Noah, the drunk and naked  9:20-21
• The curse of Canaan  9:22-25
• Lot [the just and righteous (2 Pet.2:7-8)] offers his daughters to a crowd of angel rapers  19:8
• A drunken Lot impregnates his daughters  19:30-36
• Abraham abandons his first son  21:10, 12
• God tells Abraham to kill his second son for a burnt offering  22:2, 10
• Jacob goes in unto Leah by mistake  29:23, 25
• Rachel buys sex with mandrakes  30:15-16
• Jacob sees God face to face and lives  32:30
• Reuben has sex with his father's [Jacob's] concubine  35:22
• Onan spills his seed; God kills Onan  38:9, 10
• Judah impregnates his daughter in law  38:16, 18

Do you have a Imaginary friend?

DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGINARY FRIEND?

Why the name

I choose the name "The Hidden Atheist - Hiding in plain sight" because for the fact that unless we go out of our way to tell someone or are asked, we are hidden. People make a assumption about everyone they meet, if they are christians they assume that everyone else is to.


So that should explain the name. We are all hiding in plain sight, just people are to blind to notice things they don't want to notice.

Told a coworker

To day at work, I was talking to one of my coworkers, about a situation that occurred today.

One of my employees offered me the daily word pamphlet, I politely said no thanks, and he started in on me about oh your going to hell. I responded to this by basically saying ok if that's what you think.

Later in the day I was talking to another manager and he wound up asking me if I was a atheist, I told him yes, but not something I would tell a lot of our customers, or employees.

We got into a discussion about having a rational conversation, and the ability to agree to disagree. and I explained how a lot of the time Christian's always lose by putting someone on the defensive I explained if I walked into the office, started yelling at him, that his reaction would normally be very defensive and not really listen to a thing I had to say. I then explained this is exactly what a lot of Christian's do by immediately start telling someone that doesn't believe the way they do or doesn't believe at all that they are going to hell. You cant attack someone for their believe or disbelieve, you must have the ability to listen and agree to disagree.

I have been under the idea that if you want to believe that a god exists then that's fine for you, as long as you follow a couple of simple rules

1. Do not hurt someone in the name of your god/religion
2. Do not force your believes on someone that doesn't want to believe what you believe
3. Have respect for other people and their choices
4. Believe what you want, but keep your believes out of the public venue (some people want a religious country (what religion?) We attacked and destroyed Afghanistan and they were a very religious country, do you want that here?

I am sure I could put more, and wouldnt mind someone else putting more, but thats all for right now

What If God Disappeared?

What If God Disappeared?

Why do people want to be lies to?

Today at work I had to lie. I was talking to a regular customer, who I know is a very serious christian, and another guest who I had talked to a little bit, but didn't know very well was leaving, and on his way out asked me if I had found a church to attend in this area, (I just transferred to a new state 3 weeks ago). I did tell him that no I hadn't and wasn't really interested in finding a church.

He began asking me why, and I stated I just didn't like churches due to all the hypocrisy I have seen. Turns out he is a minister at a church in the area. He asked me if I believed in god, and since I was at work, just went along with his questions and replied yes to him, and yes to being born again, etc etc.

He was kinda accepting about me not going to a church, and I got out of that conversation somewhat easily. But the other guest I had been talking to wanted to talk to me more about it, and convince me that I should be going to church, not because its a building, but because I needed to be with other Christians.

I hate having to lie to people, but sometimes its easier to deal with guests at work, if they don't know the truth.

Lies I have to tell at work that make me feel bad but make life easier.

1. letting people think I am straight


2. letting people think my ex was a woman


3. letting people think I believe in a imaginary god

Life would be easier for me if people accepted people for who they are not what they want you to be.