Thursday, April 2, 2009

Genesis 6

SAB, Genesis 6

  • 6:2
    That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they
    took them wives of all which they chose.
  • 6:3
    And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is
    flesh:
    yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
  • 6:4
    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after
    that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and
    they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Sounds like god has alot of his own kids, and they were coming to earth to have some fun.

PER SAB
(6:2, 4)
"The sons of God came in unto the
daughters of men."


How many sons does God have?

Do angels have sex?

Who were the sons of God?

  • 6:5
    And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and
    that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
    .

So much for being omnipotent, he should have known this was going to happen.

  • 6:7
    And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the
    face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air;
    for
    it repenteth me that I have made them
    .

Opps got mad at himself for what he made. Should have known what would happen, guess not.

  • 6:11
    The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
  • 6:12
    And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh
    had corrupted his way upon the earth
Well god made it.

FROM SAB
Genesis 6:14-15
Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

Noah's ark is 450 feet long. The largest wooden ships ever built were just over 300 feet, and they required diagonal iron strapping for support. Even so, they leaked so badly that they had to be pumped constantly. Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge, was able to construct a wooden ship longer than any that has been built since?

but not only was the ark too big to be seaworthy, it was far too small to be able to contain the earth's millions of plant and animal species.

I really would love to know the answer to this one, its impossible for the ark to hold all the animals, and I have always wondered how did they get back to where they currently are?

6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

So is mass murder ok with god? Oh and if every thing that is in the earth shall die, then wouldn't that include the planet it self?






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Wednesday, April 1, 2009

On the Atheist Blogroll

The Hidden Atheist has been added to The Atheist Blogroll. You can see the blogroll in my sidebar. The Atheist blogroll is a community building service provided free of charge to Atheist bloggers from around the world. If you would like to join, visit Mojoey at Deep Thoughts for more information.

Tuesday, March 31, 2009

God's Mysterious Way

Today one of my employees felt bad for a couple who told her that their house had burned down, and they had no money and were hungry. So she bought them dinner.

A little while later she got all religious, saying that god would be happy with her for helping those people. Then she goes on to ask someone else if they believed god worked in mysterious ways. She asked me and I said I dont believe in mythology. I also told her that I thought it was dumb to believe that god works in mysterious ways. I explained that its like driving a car with brakes, heading for a wall, not hitting the brakes and expecting god to stop the car, and noone to get hurt.

Oh well. Let people believe what they want, but watch out for the wall, better yet HIT THE DAMM BRAKES.

Monday, March 30, 2009

Atheist Blogroll

I am joining the athiest blogroll check it out.








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Saturday, March 28, 2009

Genesis 5

SAB, Genesis 5

  • 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Ok Reading this I guess we are not supposed to be called Human, but to be called Adam.

  • 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

So heres one answer massive incest.

So this chapter is just lineage, but provides massive thought that the only way adams boys had children was to make their sisters their wifes.







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Genesis 4

SAB, Genesis 4

  • 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
  • 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
  • 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
  • 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
  • 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

So here if you kill a animal for god good, if you bring fruit which you had to work to produce and manage alot more than the animal, you sacrifice is no good. So your work means NOTHING, only some stupid animal sacrifice.

  • 4:9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

Hmmm god doesn't seem to know where abel is or he is just playing stupid?

  • 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
  • 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Hmm so far we only have 4 people on earth, well 3 now since cain killed abel, so who is this every one that shall slay him? His own mother and father?

PER SAB
(4:14) "Every one that findeth me shall slay me."
Cain is worried after killing Abel and says, "Every one who finds me shall slay me." This is a strange concern since there were only two other humans alive at the time -- his parents!


  • 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Umm where did the wife come from? 4 - 1 = 3. This makes no logical sense at all. and he builds a city?

  • 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Here we go again, how does seth have a kid?

Ok this chapter makes no sense at all, we have a total of 3 kids born all male, 1 killed, yet 2 males have kids. Where did their wifes come from?

I can't believe that people would actually believe all this.


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Genesis 3

SAB, Genesis 3

  • 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
  • 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Now they were nude to start with, so eating the fruit caused them to have modesty for their bodys? Even little kids need to be forced at times to wear clothes, they have no natural modesty for their body's they don't feel the need to hide their body at all, so this is just plain stupid.

  • 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Yeah blame the woman, its all her fault. Adam cant take personal responsibility for his own actions.

Not really alot in this chapter, just kinda blame the woman.





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Genesis 2

  • 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
  • 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Ok so a god gets tired and needs rest?


Why would god need to create a tree of life, or a tree of knowledge of good and evil? Is he trying to dumb down his creation, or is that he made man imperfect in the first place?

  • 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thoumayest freely eat:
  • 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ok we know the outcome, but I find it funny that you would put something in place and tell adam, you cant eat that. Come on anyone that has been around children knows, you don't put a plate of cookies in front of them, and say you can look at them, but you cant eat them. Come on get real, as soon as you turn around the kid will probably eat a cookie.

  • 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
  • 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Come on even to this day we are still finding animals that have rarely been seen. I love the last few words, was adam supposed to find a mate in the animals? Was god telling adam to be in to bestiality?

PER SAB
(2:19-22)
"But for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."
God makes the animals and parades them before Adam to see if any would strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes. (Although he was tempted to go for the sheep.)
When were humans created?
When was Eve created?






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Friday, March 27, 2009

Genesis 1

Ok I am going to reread the bible, just for the heck of it, and see some of the things that make no sense to me. As I read this I will try to blog chapter by chapter, in doing so I will also have to look at the bible a little more, if I am going to write about what I think of it.

I am also going to use the Skeptic's Annotated Bible they have some interesting notes for the bible, and sometimes I will reference those notes.

Genesis 1
  • 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
  • 1:7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
  • 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Based on the above all of earth is heaven, so here we are at the beginning of the bible, and we seem to find that there is no heaven above earth but earth is heaven.

I just loved this
PER SAB:
Let the earth bring forth grass"

Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). Notice, though, that God lets "the earth bring forth" the plants, rather than creating them directly. Maybe Genesis is not so anti-evolution after all.
Were plants created before or after humans?
Does the Bible teach evolution?


God placed the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament so that they can be used "for signs". This, of course, is exactly what astrologers do: read "the signs" in the Zodiac to predict what will happen on Earth.
Does the bible condemn astrology?
What the Bible says about astrology


  • 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Ok I find this really funny, since the moon is a planetary body, and not a source of energy able to produce light, and since the moon can be visible during the day how could it be made to rule the night, and if it was made to rule the night, should it not be visable completely during all night time hours?
  • 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
firmament - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
firmament
One entry found.

Main Entry:
fir·ma·ment Listen to the pronunciation of firmament
Pronunciation:
\ˈfər-mə-mənt\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Late Latin & Latin; Late Latin firmamentum, from Latin, support, from firmare
Date:
13th century

1: the vault or arch of the sky : heavens
2obsolete : basis
3: the field or sphere of an interest or activity
— fir·ma·men·tal Listen to the pronunciation of firmamental \ˌfər-mə-ˈmen-təl\ adjective


So the question becomes what really is firmament?

Just in the first 17 verses I see contradictions that make no sense. But I am going to keep going on, and put my views here.

  • 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after
    his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his
    kind: and it was so.

How does the earth bring forth the creatures?

PER SAB: (1:24) "Let the earth bring forth the living creature" Does the Bible teach evolution?

  • 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

I like how god says "in our image" hence our would mean more than one. So how many gods are there?

PER SAB: In Genesis 1 the entire creation takes 6 days, but the universe is about 13.7 billion years old, with new stars constantly being formed.

In reading genesis 1 I find it hard to believe much of what is written, I see contradictions, and miss direction, when you look back in time to when this would have been written it was easier for someone to convince people that there was this mysterious force in control of everything, and that what happened to you wasn't your doing our others doings but was in fact in the control of this mysterious controlling force in the sky.





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Genesis for Skeptics

Since I am going to reread the bible, I am using the Skeptic's Annotated Bible I will put in things that I find interesting, and disagree with, I will refer to the SAB's notes when I think they are pertinent. Other peoples comments will be interesting. If you want to disagree with me then that is fine, but please have respect for my opinions, as I will have respect for yours. In order to get along in the world, everyone needs to respect each others opinions, even when we disagree.

The following is taken from the SAB.

Genesis Introduction

Genesis for Skeptics

Genesis has it all: sex, violence, contradictions, insults to women, absurdities, conflicts with science and history, you name it. Well, except for anything good, that is. God declared his creation to be "very good" in 1:31, but I can't find anything good in Genesis.

Be sure to check out:

  • The two contradictory creation stories  1:1-2:3, 2:4-25
  • God's clever, talking serpent  3:1
  • God's curse of all women  3:16
  • The "sons of God" copulated with the "daughters of men," and had sons who became "the mighty men of old, men of renown." 6:2-4
  • "There were giants in the earth in those days." 6:4
  • God, the mass murderer  7:4, 19:24
  • Noah, the just and righteous  7:1
  • Noah, the drunk and naked  9:20-21
  • The curse of Canaan  9:22-25
  • Lot [the just and righteous (2 Pet.2:7-8)] offers his daughters to a crowd of angel rapers  19:8
  • A drunken Lot impregnates his daughters  19:30-36
  • Abraham abandons his first son  21:10, 12
  • God tells Abraham to kill his second son for a burnt offering  22:2, 10
  • Jacob goes in unto Leah by mistake  29:23, 25
  • Rachel buys sex with mandrakes  30:15-16
  • Jacob sees God face to face and lives  32:30
  • Reuben has sex with his father's [Jacob's] concubine  35:22
  • Onan spills his seed; God kills Onan  38:9, 10
  • Judah impregnates his daughter in law  38:16, 18






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